The rough with the smooth, I guess I better blog it!

By | November 14, 2014

Promoting my business – iPro Partner Program

Hi Guys, I hope you are all well!  As you know it is not all plain sailing in the internet marketing world so today I thought I would share with you one of my ‘not so good marketing efforts while building my iPro partner Program business

As you may, or may not be aware, I am part of Dean Holland’s iPro Partner & Coaching Program.   As part of the program, one of the main aspects is sending traffic to our offer, either sending it directly to the Big Commission Blueprint squeeze page and into the funnel or  sending it to our own squeeze page where I capture the lead first and then off to the funnel if or when they purchase.  I have been taking the latter, with me capturing the lead.

So, where is the problem with that?  You may ask!  Well, with all the scandalous and less honest solo ad sellers out there, it is hard finding the right vendors to use where you are not going to lose your hard earned cash.  Soooo, Dean thought it was a good idea to take the risk out of buying solo ads by offering a service where they will go out and find all the honest and proven solo ad sellers so we don’t have to.  So far so good. I thought it was a great idea as I have come across a few bad vendors.


You can buy clicks from 0.675c for the minimum 200 click package going down to 0.525c for 3000 clicks, so me wanting to get value for money went for the 3000 click package, all paid from the commissions I had earned for the previous month, total paid was $1575.00 a fair few pennies!!!

Again, so far so good!  Or is it???


After about a third of the way through and not getting many sales, I thought I would do some digging, I found a mediocre quality score of only 62 with a Tier 1 (top 5 countries (UK, US, NZ, AU & CA)) score of only 70% not the guarantee’d score of 85% which had been promised.

I emailed the ‘traffic agency’ who replied with an apology saying they were aware of some poor quality clicks coming in and they thought they had segregated them… No I got some too, I shouted!  Along with the apology I was told I would receive an extra 500 clicks to make up for it which was a nice gesture!

Now the Tier 1 clicks started gradually raising to a number of 87% which I was happy with but that really means nothing without any sales and they still weren’t coming at the rate I would have expected for a 3000 click solo.  So below I will give you my total stats of the solo:

  • Clicks Ordered: 3000
  • Price Paid: $1575
  • Clicks Received: 3452 (slowly trickling in to an end)
  • Opt-ins: Almost 1000 (30%)
  • Front End Sales: 10 (inc. one refunded)
  • Back End Sales: 4
  • Exit Pop Sales: 1**
  • Total Commissions Earned: $492.34
  • Losses: $1082.66 OUCH!!!

** I had set up an exit pop for people who didn’t subscribe to my list, I made another mistake by using a high ticket product to add commissions to my income. This commission is now a recurring commission ($88.69) for one year or until cancelled.

I think if I had used a JVZoo Product of the Day, I may of increased it more, so that is another lesson learnt.

Now I’m not slating the Traffic Agency at all, however, I am not happy with the quality of the leads, I would have expected at least 20 sales from 1000 subscribers and after emailing my concerns for the second time I pretty much got a ‘We can’t guarantee sales’ reply and that was that.

I have, however, seen some exciting results come from the agency with one iPro’er buying a 500 click solo for $312 and getting a return of $816 with maybe more coming later into the funnel.

But it is not all doom and gloom for me, although I had a big loss, I did also manage to bank my first iPro Masters sale this month netting me a commission of $2500!!

If you are interested in what tools I have been using, I use ClickMagick to track all my clicks, this such a great tool and if used properly, like I wished I had with my exit pops, it can earn you extra commissions if people click away and don’t subscribe. They currently have a 14 day free trial period if you want to test it out.

The Autoresponder I use for collecting leads is Aweber, they also have an offer where you get your first month for $1.00

Thank you for reading this blog post I hope you enjoyed it, please feel free to leave any comments below, I would love to read them.

8 thoughts on “The rough with the smooth, I guess I better blog it!

  1. Richard Burn

    Hey John,
    Great blog post yes we sure do have to take the rough with the smooth, as with everything in life there are up’s and down, but what I found is we learn a lot more from our mistakes than we do our successes. It’s refreshing for you to share you honesty the low’s as well as the highs, that’s what it’s all about being as real as possible. When marketing doesn’t go to plans as one would have liked you will now look at how you can improve the next marketing campaign. I’ve sure been there in the past so I know what it’s like to loss money, in fact I’ve got a whole list of projects I ‘ve started on and got no where with. So I’m I know the feeling to well Hee!

    I’m sure you going to have many more big pay days like the one you had recently, will look forward to many more great blog posts, so keep the blogging going buddy! 🙂
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    1. John Lee Post author

      Hey Richard,

      Thanks for stopping by buddy!

      Im planning a few things at the moment to increase my backend sales so hopefully will be blogging about them in the near future. 🙂

      All the best Richard.


  2. Glenn Shepherd

    Hey John,

    Man, that’s gotta be so frustrating! 🙁

    Unless I’ve done my maths wrong (which, with me, is a distinct possibility!) you haven’t actually made a loss though, have you? With your 2.5k commission you’re now up about a grand on what you spent, no? Perhaps it didn’t come from any of the opt-ins from the big solo purchase, but it’s still an overall profit, is it not? Plus don’t forget you’ve now 1000 new leads in the ‘system’ who could, at any time, end up generating more sales! 😉

    Actually, that aspect of patience and waiting to see if existing leads will end up purchasing reminds me of how I got my latest commissions. I won’t go into it all here but hit me up on FB or something if it interests you. Having seen how it came about certainly gave me a boost and reinforced what I’ve been hearing Dean and so many other Marketers say for a long time.

    Keep on trucking – you’ll get there, I’ve no doubt at all! 🙂


    P.S. The lemon is ready…..! :-p
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    1. John Lee Post author

      Hey Glenn,

      Thanks for stopping by 🙂

      I know what you are saying about me not not making a loss… I was only referring to that solo ad alone with my ROI for that campaign, with the $2.5k commission my total for that month was in profit.

      All the best Glenn, thanks for leaving a comment!


  3. Jerry Handy

    John you hit the nail right on the head. All traffic sources are not created equal. As you know you’ll get some doozies every now and then.

    One thing i’ve noticed is that solo ad traffic is less responsive and aren’t too keen on opening your emails. One reason I believe that it is because they didn’t get a chance to know you prior to opting in.

    Now if u sent them to a squeeze page with your personal branding that’s one thing but if not thats another.

    Point being is that if they don’t respond to your follow up, its game over. I wish you better success in the future. Keep it going.
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    1. John Lee Post author

      Hey Jerry,

      Thank you for your comment. I totally agree with you about them not being keen on opening my emails, I do plan to change that by sending them to a ‘thank you’ video where I’ll introduce myself and hopefully that will improve my open rates!!

      Thanks again,

      All the best


  4. Brian Butler

    Wow, a great tale there John for us all. It is frustrating that we are still so much in the hands of others at times and hoping that they are as ethical as we are.
    Would you say you have had more success through solos’s than other techniques?
    I have had my first earning month (January), but have already had successes and failures with solo ads, although of course I realise there are ups and downs.
    Looking forward to exciting times,

    Brian B.
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    1. John Lee Post author

      Hey Brian,

      Thank you for stopping by again!

      To answer your question, I have probably had more success with solos in regards to volume of sales, however, the longer I have had my blog (even, though I don’t update it as much as I should) I am beginning to see some higher ticket sales coming from blog posts. At the moment I will continue to purchase solo ads and on seeing the results I’ve seen lately, I will be updating my blog more often 🙂

      Just a side note, as i’m sure you do already, you must do your due diligence when buying from solo ad sellers as there are more and more scammers out there with software that opt’s into your opt-in forms with fake emails!!! You are right in saying that there are some people out there who are not as ethical as ourselves!!!

      All the best



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